Kays Creek Irrigation Board Meeting

Kays Creek Irrigation Board Meeting


Layton City Building

Scott Green
Adams Love
Woody Woodruff
Clark Hirschi
Gary Crane

Test Strips: every time Scott goes to Weber Basin for water testing, the company is charged $20. He would like to buy a set of 50 test strips for iron and 50 test strips for manganese.
Vertex: Oxygenation system for Andy Adams pond. “Bubblers” are run down to the bottom of the pond where the water is stagnant and injects air which freshens the water. Cost is $36,161.30 and there is no guarantee that it would take care of the iron and manganese issues in the water. We would need power to run the generator.
UnRust: chemical bonding process causes the iron to “candy coat” so that it won’t stain the fences and driveways. Woody: What is the chemical makeup of unrust chemical? Scott: it is supposed to be safe for drinking water. Woody: will it cause problems down stream? Scott: We could do a test because J&J just planted 50,000 trees and we are still running our drip system. We can inject the chemical into the water to test what the right amount is. Woody: it seems that the problem is at the end of the line. The iron settles into the water. Maybe we put the chemical more toward the end of the line. When the weather is hotter, the problem seems to be worse. Scott: The fish even are dying when the weather is warmer because the oxygen is so low. Clark: It seems that we can either use chemicals for the long term or make a big one time purchase with the Vertex. Woody: there are at least 5 different chemical options. We can buy an injection system that goes into the valves at the end of the line and is based on flow. Clark: it seems that the best option is the vertex because it addresses the smell, the iron, and helps the fish. Woody: some of the chemicals will also address the smell. The EPA has guidelines that give a recommendation for how much iron and manganese should be in the water. We are high on the manganese and on the border for iron. It wasn’t an issue when the water was running open ditch because the water was oxygenated as it ran down to the lake. Clark: Is this an issue at all? It seems to affect very few people. Woody: I drove down and there are more homes affected than those who have complained. Scott: plus there are the future plans where we would have 2400 homes out west. Woody: we want to have people use the secondary system but they will want to be on culinary if the water quality is an issue. Adams: are there other companies with the same issues? Scott: Haight’s Creek has a pond with similar issues. When people complain about staining they tell them that they are overwatering and that they will be shut off. They just put it back on the customers. Clark: I am in favor of dealing with the problem at the source rather than going the chemical route. Adams: that is certainly the green option, which is popular today. Scott: I don’t know what to do. Woody: we can use someone who is an expert on this to give options and opinions. Clark: what is the difference between Hobbs and Andy Adams? Scott: I don’t know. Woody: you have to consider the source. The source water is going to be high in iron and manganese. Scott: I’ve never tested the water out of south fork. We could do that. I’ve been holding off on filling Andy Adams. Ususally it is full by February, but then it sits and stagnates. I thought of waiting to fill it so that it will be fresher in the spring. Clark: can we keep water flowing all year long? That would deal with the stagnation issue. Scott: we have to be careful because if the send too much water down the pipes too quickly, it will back up in people’s line. Clark: can we just leave the outlet open at the dam to keep fresh water flowing? Scott: We can but it won’t move the water from the end and the middle, where the problem is, only the sides. Clark: Can we empty the pond and dredge the mud out? Scott: No. A trackhoe sunk to the cab in Hobbs Creek. We would need a crane and they only go out 100 feet. It would cost a million dollars to clean out Andy Adams. Woody: what if we didn’t use the whole plan laid out by Vertex? They have obviously created a plan that uses a maximum amount of the bubblers. What if we used half to see if it created a solution? It would help the iron/manganese issue, the smell, and the fish. Clark: Is there a grant available to help cover this issue? We have a plan to use an environmentally friendly system that would benefit the people and the fish and address an EPA issue. If we put the 8 bubblers in the middle to oxygenate the pond and use flow that could solve the problem. Woody: it seems like oxygenation is the way to go. Scott: there is a lady at Weber Basin who is very knowledgeable. I would like to meet with her. Woody: I will go with you to meet with her. Scott: We can, in the future, look to combining the the water from Hobbs and Andy Adams. Woody: Hobbs has, it seems, better water quality. Combiningn them could answer the problem. Clark: Is there any way to run water from the top of Andy Adams to help push water out through the middle and out the outlet? Scott: If I could access Snow Creek, that would work. I would have to contact Haight’s Creek to see if they would allow us to divert water. They are filling their ponds right now but later will send water down to the lake. *Discussion of other options: diverting storm drain water from Oakridge. We would have to tear up Oakridge because there is no valve there. Woody: it seems that this is the way to go. We have a little bit of time to decide but we need to move forward with a plan soon.

Buy Test strips: Adams made a motion, Clark seconded.

Woody: Discussion of water master plan. 30% of homes are on secondary water, a plan was made years ago to use culinary water both inside and out. Layton City has put in a contract to take over the lines for Weber Basin to become the operator and maintenance. This would cover 4500 homes. 60% of future demands of water could be supplied by Kays Creek. Layton City want to become the sole operator and maintainer of the secondary water system within Layton City boundaries. This helps with customer service. The shareholders would be maintain their water shares/rights. The city is able to put together a 40 year plan that protects the water rights of the citizens by showing beneficial use. The state can give any system a water “haircut” if they feel beneficial use isn’t shown. Scott: that happened with the city of Roosevelt. They lost 12,000 acre feet to the state. Woody: we would do this on a step by step basis. Layton City would present a contract in a few years that would present a plan to assume control of the billing, maintenance, and operation of the secondary system. This would not be for existing homes, but for new subdivisions out west and for parks and schools. The city would pay Kays Creek Irrigation for the water and Kays Creek would remain the water provider. The city is not at all interested in providing flood irrigation, only pressurized. The city would require all new subdivisions to hook on. Scott: there would be no fighting with contractors that way. Woody: So we would be operators, and would have some ownership as we put in new lines. We are also talking with Davis and Weber about their lines in Layton City as well. There would be a clause in the contract that if, after a year, it was not working out, Kays Creek could back out. Weber Basin will be the trial basis. If it works out well, we will move forward. Davis and Weber wants Kays Creek to take over 600 homes and Layton city could take over that in the future. This would be a great way to maximize and utilize the water and resources that are here. Clark: Is this a backhanded way for Layton City to control all the water? Woody: the reservioirs were created to provide water for crops. The landscape is changing from agriculture to residential. Our water exaction program has made the city owners of water shares. Over time, the city would own a majority share, but we would then lease that water for the use of the city residents. Kays Creek would receive a payment back and become, basically, a water wholesaler. Adams: What percentage of the fees would go to the city for maintenance and what would go to Kays Creek? The city isn’t very efficient with its resources. Woody: It would have to be determined between the city and Kays Creek. We would need to have 2 or 3 employees to run it.

Woody left for the remainder of the discussion.

Scott: if the city takes over the lines the benefit is that they have the resources to fix the pipes and valves if something goes wrong. We’ve replaced a lot of valves and things, but there is still a lot to do. We pay a lot in cutting the road, hiring extra help, and rent equipment. The company would still need resources to pay employees, but Steve would probably be hired by the city and I am only here for 3 more years, so my salary would be gone. If there were an earthquake, our transite pipe lines would break and we would be in a world of trouble. Our costs would double. Clark: this sounds like a plan that would need to be approved by the shareholders. Scott: absolutely. They would need to present the plan and deal with the questions and concerns of the shareholders. Adams: Is there a negative side? Scott: I don’t see too many. The benefits outweigh any potential problems.

Meeting ended at 4:50pm.